Griffeth Never Again Be W You
Griffith'south pre-Eclipse words
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- #1
Griffith: (If you touch on me now)
(If y'all grasp my shoulder now)
(I'll never once more)
(I'll never once again...!!)
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Griffith: (I'LL NEVER AGAIN FORGIVE....................)
Okay this has been bothering me for a long time. I know at this point in the series Griffith had a love/detest thing going on with Guts since he was the one responsible in his mind for casting him into darkness but at the same time was his support for many years. What I don't understand is if Griffith knows exactly what is going to happen and its meaning he volition not forgive him over grasping his dream considering Guts was the only one who ever made him lose sight of it?.... or is there some other pregnant I missed?
- #2
What I don't understand is if Griffith knows exactly what is going to happen and its meaning he will non forgive him over grasping his dream because Guts was the only one who ever made him lose sight of it?
Griffith didn't know what was about to happen at the time. He was merely desperate and on the edge of madness. Hither'due south a post from Walter written in 2001 about it:
My personal take on that line is that Griffith is emphasizing that he does not want Guts to take 'care' of him any longer. Griffith desires to exist in control of his ain destiny, and non be treated as a helpless cripple. If (and when) Guts would bear him on his shoulder, Griffith would lose his complimentary will; turned into someone cared afterwards.
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- #4
Griffith was pretty fortunate to be preordained as a God Paw.
He was supposed to go Femto from the 24-hour interval he was born, and all his life upwardly to that point served that purpose. It's pretty much the opposite of fortune that made it and so.
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- #7
The Ruffled Swordsman said:I always took it to mean something along the lines of If y'all touch me it can never become back to the way it was.
Well, I'm lamentable to break downwardly your interpretation, but originally when the episode was published in Immature Creature, the line was consummate and it was: "If you bear upon me at present, I'll never be able to forgive yous once more." Information technology was but shortened after, when the volume came out.
Also, Griffith didn't know the apostles were there at the fourth dimension, and I don't retrieve he knew the Eclipse was nigh to kickoff. He had just reached a breaking point (which is incidentally what started the ceremony).
- #8
Well, I'1000 pitiful to break down your estimation, but originally when the episode was published in Young Animal, the line was consummate and it was: "If you touch me now, I'll never be able to forgive you again." It was only shortened later on, when the book came out.Also, Griffith didn't know the apostles were there at the time, and I don't retrieve he knew the Eclipse was about to start. He had only reached a breaking point (which is incidentally what started the ceremony).
What about saying "If you touch on me now, I'll never exist able to forgive you again." Contradicts thinking If you touch me now it will never go back to the way it was. Saying he tin can never forgive him, reinforces that in abroad for me. I don't pretend to know exactly what information technology means. But the feeling I get from someone saying I'll never be able to forgive you over again, is that their proverb if you do this it tin never go back to the way information technology was.
- #9
The Ruffled Swordsman said:What about saying "If you touch me now, I'll never exist able to forgive you over again." Contradicts thinking If you touch me now it will never get dorsum to the way it was. Proverb he tin never forgive him, reinforces that in away for me. I don't pretend to know exactly what it means.
Well it'due south simply not what he says, that's all.
The Ruffled Swordsman said:But the feeling I become from someone saying I'll never be able to forgive y'all again, is that their saying if you do this it can never become back to the mode information technology was.
It's not like at that place was a possibility for things to "go dorsum to the fashion information technology was" anyway. Griffith was desperately crippled and Guts wasn't going to serve under him over again, no matter what. A lot of the remaining Hawks wanted Guts to go their leader, likewise. Casca was clearly in love with him, and struggling non to go out with him only out of loyalty and because of Griffith's dramatic state. I understand your train of thought, and I agree with Walter that it'south a squeamish and romantic concept, but when y'all think more thoroughly it just doesn't make much sense to me.
- #10
Well information technology's merely non what he says, that'due south all.It'due south not similar there was a possibility for things to "become back to the mode information technology was" anyway. Griffith was badly bedridden and Guts wasn't going to serve under him again, no matter what. A lot of the remaining Hawks wanted Guts to become their leader, too. Casca was clearly in dear with him, and struggling not to go out with him only out of loyalty and because of Griffith's dramatic state. I empathise your train of thought, and I agree with Walter that it'south a nice and romantic concept, but when y'all think more thoroughly it just doesn't make much sense to me.
Ahhhh I meet, I didn't mean to say that's what he actually says, its only 1 possibility I thought of.
Not to say it is a definite one.
Your right it is very far fetched to think things could ever become the way they were once more but thats why I idea information technology was so absurd if that is what Griffith was proverb. It sort of puts over to me just how definite the feeling he gets is, that this impending doom, with all the apostles coming out of the lake, is more of a definite detriment then his own destroyed trunk.
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